Interview with Danny Lilker (S.O.D., Nuclear Assault, Hemlock, etc.)
My only complaint about this interview is that it is way too short.
I could have asked way more questions considering Danny is involved with, and has been involved with, so many bands. And the fact he has been around for so long and the fact that I have followed all of the bands he has played in, blah, blah, blah........
Interview and all live photos by Mike Coles
Interview with Danny Lilker some time ago (Was it late 90's, or what? No memory, no ticket stub - Mike), posted some time in 2007.
The Outcast: Well, the first thing I want to ask is how serious are you guys with your lyrics?
Danny: Well, semi, not totally. A lot of the lyrics are just blown up exaggerations. On the first record, let's say; "Speak English or Die", that was just something....... When you are in New York, you would start to get annoyed when people who had jobs who are supposed to communicate can't even speak the same language. Let's say you're calling up any kind of service, a cab company, and he says; "What? Blah, blah, blah..." you feel like screaming at this guy; "Speak English or die!!" you know? What it really is, is acting out little fantasies about doing something, it's not necessarily that mean...... it's just a sarcastic.... it's hard to describe.
The Outcast: Who writes most of the lyrics?
Danny: Scott and Billy wrote the lyrics on the last record. I've given them certain concepts to follow, like "Free dirty needles" and stuff. Why can't we give junkies free dirty needles so they can just get out of our way, you know? What it really is, SOD is just about the music. The lyrics, as far as the whole controversial aspect, it's just something interesting, amusing to us, watching peoples reactions to them. But you know, most of the time a lot of our songs on the new record all tie up with overpopulation; "Free dirty needles", "Make room, make room", "Kill the assholes." There is no denying the fact that there are too many filthy humans on the planet.
The Outcast: Is Anthrax still around? (Just read the interview posted on this site and see. Man this interview is old! - Mike)
Danny: They did a short tour right before this. They are going to be doing some stuff this summer.
The Outcast: How come Scott and Charlie do not walk around like you and Billy?
Danny: I don't know. They just don't want to "deal with it." I don't care, I'm pretty sociable. They're not ass-holes; they're just not like us. A lot of people misunderstand that and think they are rock stars or something, and they are not like that. They just don't hang out, you know?
The Outcast: Hmmm...... Well, on to more serious topics. Most of my questions deal with serious topics. I interviewed a lot of Christian bands and a lot of black metal bands........ (Interrupted)
Danny: I play in a black metal band.
The Outcast: Hemlock, right?
The Outcast: Do you see yourself playing with anyone since Brutal Truth broke up?
Danny: Well, I still play with Hemlock and right after this I'm going to go and do a record, or I guess you could call it a project band. Did you hear about the Ravenous?
The Outcast: Yeah. Who's going to release that?
The Outcast: Going back to project bands, what is your personal opinion on project bands? I mean I know you play in some, and no offense to you, but you have all these record labels (back around that time) releasing all these "super groups" with all these underground veterans involved when there is so much talent floating around out there not getting noticed because the record labels are more interested in who is starting the next "super group". In short, I just think the labels are all just trying to cash in on the names of those who are all involved. You even see it in the advertising; "Contains members of fill in blank and fill in blank".
Danny: Well, there should be room for everyone. The reason that we are in these project bands is because we were in these underground bands before that, and maybe these kids who are in these bands now, maybe they will be in these "super groups" in 8 years or something?
The Outcast: I can see that. What do you think about publications who have a "sense of humor"?
Danny: The Grimoire of Exalted Deeds (Interview with Bill Zebub, editor, in issue #3 - Mike) is a great magazine, but the problem with that is they're trying to be as offensive as possible. They're saying it's all a joke, but then again, if I were a black guy who was really into metal and stuff I'd get insulted if I were reading reviews like; "This is supposed to be technical, but it's so easy that even a nigger could do it." It's getting a bit over the line just writing for shock value, but they are hilarious.
The Outcast: (Full of sarcasm, assuming he has been asked this a billion times.) Here's an original question for ya! Out of all the bands you have ever played with, who is your favorite, or the best?
Danny: Different bands satisfy different aspects of what I can do. Brutal Truth was great for all out grinds. Nuclear Assault was the first band I got to go to Europe with. S.O.D. is fun because of the spontaneous humorous thing. Hemlock is cool for the crushing, brutal black metal thing.
The Outcast: I can see that. What's your opinion on religion, not just Christianity?
Danny: I've been an atheist (great band! - Mike) for as long as I can remember. A lot of people from N.Y....... I was brought up Jewish and I had to make my parents happy, you know? Religion to me is totally disposable. I find it revolting. I find it shocking that so many laws and our society are based around that. People can get so intimated by the whole thing. You can't have an abortion; you can't use condoms (the Catholics), that type of shit; the Catholic guilt. Religion I think is used to keep people who are poor and down to keep them happy. A fairytale to make them think that they are okay to live like this and it is all a lie. It doesn't matter what religion you follow, you are all slaves. I feel fully qualified and justified playing in a black metal band not being a Satanist because of my contempt for all organized religions and Christianity, you know? Satanism, some of that shit is; "I don't pray to anybody." So.....
The Outcast: If you could change one part in history would you and what would you change?
Danny: Man, that's a lot of history to think about, dude. I wouldn't say the holocaust, even though that was a horrible tragedy, right, because that teaches a lesson about brutal people. I think I would change around the year 1000 when Christianity was forced to a lot of Europeans.
The Outcast: What do you hope to find after death?
Danny: A lot of good herb.
The Outcast: You still smoke a lot of weed?
Danny: Oh yeah, but as far as what I really expect, I don't think there is going to be anything. Being an atheist, I just think I'm going to rot.
The Outcast: What is your opinion on Christina metal? Do you think it is a "joke" or a contradiction?
Danny: When we were in Germany last year, we had dinner with Mortification because they are on Nuclear Blast also. The bass player/vocalist walked up and said; "It's nice to meet you man, I loved Nuclear Assault." So that was cool. But what I think about Christian metal, I think God has enough music on his side. Metal should either be neutral, dark, or satanic. But Christian metal for me is definitely a contradiction because............ I don't know, it's hard to say. If there was a kid who was really into metal and that was really into Jesus, I guess that is his right, but I don't think it is appropriate. I think it should be the sign of the horns, because that's metal.
The Outcast: What do you think would be the worst way to die?
Danny: I'm not sure if it would be fire or drowning. We always have this conversation. Probably fire, fire would suck. Drowning would suck to though. Once you start gasping for air your lungs will fill with water. It's hard to say.
The Outcast: How do you want to die?
Danny: Painlessly, sudden if it is going to be painful.
The Outcast: What do you think of the current scene?
Danny: I think we are all rebelling against Korn and Limp B. We're all going; "What the fuck, that's not metal." Black metal is still kicking surprisingly 7 years after the whole explosion. Death metal never died, despite what anybody says. It just got over eclipsed by black metal for a little while. I think it should stay underground. I'm not concerned what Megadeth is doing. It's always been healthy. But people like say you or me obviously, we know what's what. I got over the thing with "this" and Korn a long time ago. If people want to call that metal, fine, we know better.
The Outcast: What would S.O.D (as a whole maybe) philosophy be? Just having fun?
Danny: We're definitely about having fun. We play fast, brutal music, but then Billy will say something and everyone will crack up. We don't take it too seriously and I think that's what people like.
The Outcast: Well man, thanks a million and I hope you enjoy the rest of the tour and what not. My final question this evening is what do you want written on your epitaph?
Danny: Smoke me!!