Conducted on 7/25/98
by Mike C.
Finally! I interviewed Deaden/Von a long time ago, but lost the interview when I first moved to Ironton. This interview was conducted at last yearís Milwaukee Metal Fest. They played an excellent show, as they are known to do. If youíre looking for some excellent groove oriented death metal brutality that will not disappoint your ears one bit, definitely order Deadenís latest effort "Hymns of the Sick."
The Outcast: Iím here getting ready to interview Von before we supposedly have sex according to Kibler. (Hey Dave, you sick wanker!) So, I hear the response to "Hymns..." is excellent and that youíre getting ready to do the 2nd pressing?
Von: Actually weíre getting ready to do our 3rd.
The Outcast: So what does that tell you when you hear that metal is dead?
Von: Shit, not in our area. Itís doing pretty well where weíre at.
The Outcast: Do you think youíll get any responses from any labels?
Von: Weíre hoping so man. Weíve heard a few rumors about some, but we donít know whatís going on with that, nothing to get our hopes up yet. Weíll see how it goes. If not, weíll just stick with "United Gutteral"; itís no problem with us.
The Outcast: How often do you guys practice?
Von: We do one day a week.
The Outcast: Thatís it? You guys are extremely tight. Do you guys play your instruments any other days of the week?
Von: No, just when we practice.
The Outcast: Man, thatís pretty cool. Well, hereís a healthy question. From the first day I met you, and the rest of the guys, I didnít really know you guys very well. When we went to that party in Champaign a couple years back, I noticed that you guys didnít drink and what not.
Von: I am and Drew is, weíre both completely clean, but Ethan and Danny will get drunk and...
The Outcast: Not before shows do they?
Von: Every now and then but they donít get smashed to where they canít play; theyíll get their ass beat if they do that.
The Outcast: Is that a strict rule that you all agreed on?
Von: We donít want anyone getting fucked up to where we canít do our job, you know? And you donít have to worry about me and Drew.
The Outcast: Does your father being a cop have an influence on your choice or is it your own personal choice?
Von: Nope, not one bit at all. Everyone thinks that because my dad is a cop, that is why Iím straight. Itís my own personal beliefs. Iíve never tried anything, never even smoked a cigarette or touched a drop of alcohol. Iíve never wanted to and I never will.
The Outcast: Man, whatís wrong with you?! Just kidding, thatís pretty cool actually.
Von: Iím the last of the dying breed.
The Outcast: Do people who donít know you on a personal level automatically think you do drugs or think youíre an alcoholic because you play in a metal band and listen to metal?
Von: Yeah, people tend to do that a bit. Thatís just ignorance.
The Outcast: Does your father help any on getting shows?
Von: Not at all.
The Outcast: Thatís one of the first things I thought of when I saw you guys at the "Knights of Columbus" place. How did you get a show there?
Von: They knew they were going to get a good amount of money. Some of the members donít like it, but you know theyíre like, "So what, weíre getting a decent amount of money." They get a good amount of money from the bar sales, so they could give a shit less.
The Outcast: Leave it to the Catholics. Are you Catholic?
Von: I donít believe in anything.
The Outcast: Really? Whyís that?
Von: You know, give me some proof.
The Outcast: Yeah, if you canít see it, you wonít believe it.
The Outcast: Iíve known that feeling. On to a different subject, I remember that one show in Champaign where you had that big screen TV and you were playing scenes form "Faces of Death." How often do you guys do that?
Von: Actually, that was the only time we did it.
The Outcast: Why is that?
Von: They had the TV screen there. (Laughter)
The Outcast: I thought that was yours.
Von: We donít know if we want to do that again though because Ĺ the people were watching the TV instead of us.
The Outcast: Speaking of people paying attention to other things rather than the band playing. I donít know if you saw Cradle of Filth 2 year ago here in Milwaukee and the Death Kids?
Von: Yeah, I did.
The Outcast: Whatís your opinion about both bands having female dancers on stage while theyíre playing?
Von: Well, for Cradle of Filth itís alright, thatís their thing, but for Death Kids, why? They donít even know what pussy is you know? (Laughter) I donít know man, I think...
The Outcast: Have they even reached puberty? (Laughter)
Von: Exactly you know, their voice is still cracking. Nothing against the Death Kids, you know, Iím not trying to talk trash about anybody. I just think thatís a plot to get people to see them. They do what they do, and thatís cool.
The Outcast: Iíve noticed that your family is very supportive on what you do. How important is that for you? Do they ever give you any crap on the subject matter?
Von: Oh yeah, most definitely. At first they despised what I was doing and thought that I was in a phase or something. But you know, Iím still doing it and I think they finally realized that this is my life and this is what makes me happy and they now support me on what I do. Theyíll come to shows every so often. They know what weíre about and so...
The Outcast: Have they seen the "Butchered Whore" shirt?
Von: No, they havenít seen that yet.
The Outcast: Do you think youíll hear a big fuss about the shirts?
Von: Probably, theyíll probably say...
The Outcast: Theyíll ground you.
Von: Well, that would be hard since I donít live with them. Ethanís parents are the ones that are really bad.
The Outcast: Are they religious?
Von: Not really, itís just the content.
The Outcast: So how do you view death? I read an interview in "Arrows of Malice" where she mentioned something about the "Faces of Death" videos and you said; "All that shit is fake, I like the real shit." Do you actually like watching that kind of stuff?
Von: Yeah, thereís something that fascinates me about death and how like a human can be there one minute and when something happens and they die, the body just totally looks like its fake. Itís just weird you know?
The Outcast: Have you ever seen a dead person?
The Outcast: Do you think if you saw someone die in front of you, you might see death differently?
Von: Itís hard to say.
The Outcast: Iíve never been able to see those kinds of movies, they give me the creeps. I just donít like the fact that people see death as entertainment you know? "Cops," "Real TV," "When Nature Strikes Back," etc...
Von: Weíre the ones who get the shit for it, for singing about it, when people are at home watching it on TV you know?
The Outcast: Itís just sad that people donít value life you know? Well, on a brighter note. How do you feel about this yearís Champaign Fest? Were there more people there than last year?
Von: There were a few more. I think there were about 400 people or so, but I thought it went alright.
The Outcast: Will you do it again next year?
Von: I donít think "Knights of Columbus" will let me do it again next year.
The Outcast: Why is that?
Von: They might do little shows, but I donít think theyíll do another big show, but who knows? Iíd like to, you know? Kibler and Lividity would like to see it as a 2 day event, but who knows.
The Outcast: Did I ever tell you about the van full of prostitutes we encountered at the Champaign Fest 2 years ago?
The Outcast: It was pretty weird. Anyway, it was me and the rest of the El Pecado guys, and we were just getting ready to leave when this van pulls up. Like 6 women start asking me where the party was at after the show and stuff and I didnít know anything about a party. Next thing I know the driver pulls down her shirt and shows me her breast and said; "Now do you know where the party is at?" I was like; "What the..." Finally, I told Trevor to talk to them because I figured that was his territory, you know? It was a really weird encounter.
Von: I didnít even know about that.
The Outcast: Now you do.
Von: Were they cute? (Laughter)
The Outcast: Ah, no.
Von: Come down to Champaign, we have whores for you!
The Outcast: Well, enough on that. I understand you do logos. Do you still do them?
Von: I donít really have time to do them anymore, but Iíll do them from time to time.
The Outcast: So whatís in the future for Deaden?
Von: Man, I donít know. Out of everything weíve ever done, weíve pretty much accomplished everything we needed to do musically. All I really want to do is play in Europe. So who know?
The Outcast: Well my friend, any closing words?
Von: Thank you for the interview. Everyone get in touch. Hopefully weíll have some CDís left.
The Outcast: Are you going to keep pressing them?
Von: Oh yeah, weíll give people what they want. Weíve already gone through 2,000 in 10 months. We canít seem to keep our shirts very long either. But uh, get in touch and hopefully weíll have something for you.
The Outcast: Well, thanks again. Take care and Iím sure Iíll see you again some time soon.